In 2021, Robert Watson, Wolfgang Knorr and I wrote the article “Concept of net zero is a dangerous trap“. Three years later we concluded that the jaws of this trap are starting to close with climate policy increasingly being framed in terms of what we call “The overshoot myth“. In this talk I do my best to bring this work together and explain what it means for climate action today. Following the talk there was a very interesting discussion – apologies not getting round to the many comments that were posted online.